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BAUmaster628

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February 15, 2014

WelcomeEdit

Hi, welcome to Criminal Minds Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Vincent Rowlings page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Mvpl (talk) 00:34, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Serial Killer NicknamesEdit

These are nicknames for some of the unsubs of the show I thought of. What do you think? If you have any ideas for the rest of the unsubs please tell me. I will see if they're clever.

Unsub organization and typeEdit

Here are some ideas as to what type of killer the unsubs are on the show. Tell me what you think. You could add these to their templates.

Serial Killer Murder DatesEdit

If you came up with dates (a day, month, or year) as to when these unsubs in the show committed their murders, when would do you think they would be?


Crimes dates Edit

Sorry, but I'm not gonna be of any help with this. If the dates can't be found on Garcia's screens, -always the best bet to find those kind of details,- most probably they weren't in any place in their episodes. If that's what happened, nothing we can do other than let them undated (guesswork only works so far).

One small request, sign your posts on Talk pages (easier to know who's written them and easier to reply, as the signature adds a link to the writer own talk page). To do so you've 2 options: click the signature button on the edit menu or add four tildes (~) at the end of your text. Thanks! - Mvpl TALK (CM Wiki Admin) 21:38, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Murder DatesEdit

Saw your post on Mvpl's talk-page. As she mentioned to you previously, if the dates can't be seen on Garcia's computer screen (if not anything else), then it's best if they were left unsolved, since guesswork can work so far. UnSub-Zero (talk) 21:53, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

CM Timeline Edit

I think I understand what you mean, and if I do, I like the idea. Why don't you start it in your own SANDBOX? That way you can play with it as much as you want without interferences (Sandboxes are private pages connected to each user own page that we've all agreed to not edit unless given permission by the owner; clicking the link, you'll automatically create your own).

When it resembles adequately what you've in mind, tell me and I'll take a look to see if I have any suggestions. In the meantime, I'll think where we can place it :-) - Mvpl TALK (CM Wiki Admin) 17:01, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

CSI wiki Edit

How can I edit a wiki about a show I don't watch? Believe me, it would be too difficult! I did help a friend several years ago to update their main page, but he had to give me all the info they wanted in to go there; my main function was to get them high quality images and help with formatting, nothing more. - Mvpl TALK (CM Wiki Admin) 18:09, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re: "Criminal Victimology"Edit

I honestly do not see the point of such a section in that template.

Oh, and when you leave behind a signature, click on the button that says 'Signature'. That way, you don't have to waste perfect seconds writing out your username like that. UnSub-Zero (talk) 01:24, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Team ImagesEdit

Mvpl wasn't the one who put the photo for The Collins Family up. I actually don't know who did. Just sayin'. And have some patience, she'll get around to posting such photos eventually. She's not some sort of mindless zombie. UnSub-Zero (talk) 23:24, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe if I was a zombie I would be faster, but my problem is that I end rewatching many of the episodes I start to get caps from... #Oops! Will get there, with a bit of time! ;-) - Mvpl TALK (CM Wiki Admin) 14:15, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

DahmerEdit

Jeffrey Dahmer was actually diagnosed by court psychologists and prison psychiatrists as suffering from paraphilias, borderline personality disorder, major depression, generalized anxiety disorder, and substance use disorder. His paraphilias included necrophilia, exhibitionism, hebephilia, fetishism, pygmalionism, and erotophonophilia. He was never diagnosed with pedophilia. TVfan99 (talk) 17:19, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

His official diagnosisEdit

Major depression, generalized anxiety disorder, substance use disorder (drugs and alcohol), paraphilias (including necrophilia, exhibitionism, hebephilia, fetishism, pygmalionism, and erotophonophilia), and the big one, borderline personality disorder. He was never diagnosed with pedophilia and it's probably because he never molested anyone under the age of 13. When you are attracted to those that are 13-16/17 - it's called hebephilia, which he was diagnosed with. What you have up there under "Pathology" is not based on fact at all.

Sources:

  • Real-Life Monsters: A Psychological Examination of the Serial Murderer, by Stephen J. Giannangelo. Praeger, 2012. ISBN 03133978480
  • Solomon M. Fulero; Lawrence Samuel Wrightsman (2008). Forensic Psychology. Cengage Learning. ISBN 978-0-495-50649-2.
  • Dvorchak, Robert J. (1991). Milwaukee Massacre: Jeffery Dahmer and the Milwaukee Murders. Dell. ISBN 978-0-440-21286-7.
  • Masters, Brian (1993). The Shrine of Jeffrey Dahmer. Hodder & Stoughton. p. 72. ISBN 978-0-340-59194-9.
  • Purcell; Arrigo, Catherine; Bruce A (2006). The Psychology of Lust Murder: Paraphilia, Sexual Killing, and Serial Homicide. Academic Press; 1 edition. ISBN 978-0-12-370510-5.

Re: Wound CollectorEdit

I honestly can't think of anyone else who can fit in the pathology, nor do I think I have the capability to try and do so right now (it's been a long week, and I just need to relax). UnSub-Zero (talk) 22:46, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: M.O.Edit

Uh...nope. They're fine the way they are. UnSub-Zero (talk) 23:17, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

CODINGEdit

It really looks like you need a little lesson on Wiki Coding 101. This is how you did the Known Victims section of the Mike DeBardeleben article:

  • Unspecified locations:
    • Unspecified date in 1956: His unnamed mother (physically assaulted only)
    • April 1971: Terry McDonald (suspected)
    • Unspecified date in 1975: Phillipa Voliner (pistol-whipped only)
    • September 4-5, 1978: Lucy Alexander, 19 (abducted and raped repeatedly; was released)
    • 1979:
    • Fayetteville, North Carolina February 4: Elizabeth Mason, 31 (pistol-whipped, bound and strangled to the point of unconsciousness)
    • June 1, unspecified location in Maryland: Laurie Jensen, 20 (raped repeatedly only)
      • October 10, unspecified location in New Jersey: Italian-American woman (assaulted only)
    • November 1, 1980: Dianne Overton, 25 (attempted to abduct; she escaped)
  • April 27, 1982, Bossier City, Louisiana: Jean McPhaul (suspected; strangled and stabbed twice in the heart; not sexually assaulted)
  • April 13, 1983, Greece, New York: David Starr and Joe Rapini (suspected; abducted both)
    • David Starr
    • Joe Rapini (held for ransom and shot)

THIS is how it needs to look like:

  • Unspecified locations:
    • Unspecified date in 1956: His unnamed mother (physically assaulted only)
    • April 1971: Terry McDonald (suspected)
    • Unspecified date in 1975: Phillipa Voliner (pistol-whipped only)
    • September 4-5, 1978: Lucy Alexander, 19 (abducted and raped repeatedly; was released)
  • 1979:
    • February 4, Fayetteville, North Carolina: Elizabeth Mason, 31 (pistol-whipped, bound and strangled to the point of unconsciousness)
    • June 1, unspecified location in Maryland: Laurie Jensen, 20 (raped repeatedly only)
    • October 10, unspecified location in New Jersey: Unnamed Italian-American woman (assaulted only)
  • November 1, 1980, unspecified location: Dianne Overton, 25 (attempted to abduct; she escaped)
  • April 27, 1982, Bossier City, Louisiana: Jean McPhaul (suspected; strangled and stabbed twice in the heart; not sexually assaulted)
  • April 13, 1983, Greece, New York: David Starr and Joe Rapini (suspected; abducted both)
    • David Starr
    • Joe Rapini (held for ransom and shot)

I am starting to get pretty sick of having to clean up for something that can be done so SIMPLY. If you're not sure how to make a properly-coded bullet-list like the second example I gave you, just go to an article with a good bullet-list, put it into SOURCE MODE (you can do this by going to the upper right hand corner, at the section with two tabs that read 'Source' and 'Visual', and click on the tab that says 'Source'), and examine how the proper coding goes. That's what helped me around this wiki in my first days.

I apologize if I sound so irritated and offensive, but ever since you've been here, I've seen little to no progress in how you edit articles, compared to other newcomers who have now risen to the ranks, and this wiki has also seen its more-than-fair share of bad users (even trolls), to the point where I've gotten so irritated at any flub in editing. You obviously know your way around most of the editing process.

Oh, and before I go, one more piece of advice: don't believe every source or fact you see to be unanimously applicable to the appropriate subject. If there's anything Criminal Minds has ever taught me, it's to profile anything and everything closely, and to not consider everything you see as fact. (See what I did there?)

P.S.: I apologize about the majority of this message being in bold text. It's to distinguish the bullet-lists more efficiently.

UnSub-Zero (talk) 02:49, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Organization and TypingEdit

Saw your list on Mvpl's talk-page. I honestly don't see why we need that. First of all, a majority of these unsubs are not actually given proper organization by the BAU, otherwise it would've been included in the templates in the first place; instead, on the rare occasion that they are given any sort of classification, we get what I assume to be fictional terms such as "Omnivore" and "Wound Collector". Second of all...I just don't see the point. There's no need to make the Criminal Templates identical to those of the Real People Templates (I know that's what you're trying to aim for here). UnSub-Zero (talk) 05:46, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Criminal CategoriesEdit

Not seeing the need for any of them. UnSub-Zero (talk) 05:57, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

The DatesEdit

Well, you seem to be changing them VERY FREQUENTLY, which causes me to doubt their legitimacy so much. I want you to remember that Criminal Minds, like any other show, has a number of continuity errors, which would further complicate the entire timeline issue. Facts given to us can point to multiple dates at once, all of which would look pretty legitimate. UnSub-Zero (talk) 06:54, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Stalker Unsubs?Edit

I never added what types of poisoners they were. What are you talking about? UnSub-Zero (talk) 00:49, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Timeline SandboxEdit

You haven't worked on your Timeline Sandbox for a couple of months now. Still plan on doing it? As much as I have some doubts about this continuity you planned out for this wikia, it's still interesting. UnSub-Zero (talk) 19:52, July 19, 2014 (UTC)

Your Dates AgainEdit

Alright, I don't know what's going on, but this is like the tenth time (that I know of) you've switched back and forth between the same two sets of dates you're using the Jeffrey Collins article, which leads me to assume you don't have any idea about the exact dates the murders occurred. That is why I've decided to mark them as Unspecified. If you keep doing that without any good reason, I WILL make a case for your banning. UnSub-Zero (talk) 20:32, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

No, I don't. You keep hopping back and forth between those two sets of dates. First all of the murders occur in February, then the last one of two occur in March, then back and forth again. Literally, you ARE hopping back and forth. Can you explain what is going on? AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, LEAVE YOUR SIGNATURE WHEN YOU MESSAGE ME! UnSub-Zero (talk) 21:06, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Briefing TimeEdit

That has not been explicitly confirmed in the show itself. UnSub-Zero (talk) 01:59, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

So...from these two examples, that must mean it has to ring true for all other cases? I don't believe it. UnSub-Zero (talk) 16:15, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
Nope. Still don't believe you. I doubt this rings true for EVERY CASE. UnSub-Zero (talk) 00:36, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: PsychopathyEdit

I will not answer that. We cannot make any assumptions about the potential psychopathy of these criminals based on guesswork. UnSub-Zero (talk) 20:55, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

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