Please forgive my intrusion but since you guys are discussing episode images, may I make a suggestion?
Could you take a look at our image for The Last Word, if you have the time? Rocky, correct me if I'm wrong but ideally the image we use should give you the best non-spoiler look at the plot of the episode, am I right in saying that? Personally, I fail to see how that image fits that criteria. But then again maybe it's just me.
Also, can you check out Seven Seconds and maybe A Shade of Gray to see if anything better can be found. Thanks. Sorry again for butting in like this.
That's fine, Profiler. I'm MIA on Seven Seconds, but A Shade of Gray might still work without that annoying location name in the corner. And you're right. Last Word needs an update.
Going to back to you, Rocky, I thought the ITW might work because of the woodland locations. I mean, this is the Appalachian Trail, right? Here's an idea. Why don't we get a third opinion about the images and go from there?
Finally, this is for the both of you. You may have noticed I updated a lot of the episode images over the past two days. For good reason. A lot of them, I have noticed, have a "washed-out" color and some of them just need replacing. My apologies to those who submitted originals.
Well, it's just the episode focuses on a missing child, so using the likes of Hope and Gabby or maybe even Memoriam where you see the discovery of the child's body as a template, something like that might work better than just a road sign with "AMBER Alert" on it. Images for episodes aren't my field of expertise so I try to stay away from it but these ones just stood out to me. I can get ok-ish to decent images of characters, sure, but in my opinion, the real magic is done by Rocky at the end of the day. His work is far better than the bad stuff I put up.
Yeah I have been seeing that you're uploading new images a lot lately. Now I haven't inspected all of them up close but in short, I think our pages look a lot better with the new images instead of the old ones. Nice work. Whatever you do, don't stop now.
For The Last Word, keeping with the newspaper angle, can you try to get a shot of where The Hollow Man leaves the paper next to two dead prostitutes? In the end, the paper played a big role in catching the unsubs but a single image of a page wouldn't give away too much. But again, I'm no expert.
Seven Seconds is the best it can be, availability-wise. Same with Elephant's Memory, Haunted, Cradle to Grave, Perennials, The Inspiration and The Inspired. Route 66, In The Blood, Protection, Scarecrow, Alpha Male fits same criteria.
And respectfully, some of those shots need a ton of improvement. Haunted and Protection look bland, Cradle to Grave is too blurry and has that awful washed-out color, Scarecrow looks like Taboo but with the ground, Inspiration is difficult to see because the girl's body is blocked by furniture, Route 66 looks washed-out and like a publicity photo, In the Blood and Alpha Male don't really highlight the episode and Perennials looks like a CSI photo.
And Elephant's Memory was my bad. It just needs a touch-up.
I'm gonna work on that list you mentioned 20 hours ago. I already have a new photo for The Last Word that I will submit shortly, now working on Haunted, Cradle to Grave, Nanny Dearest, The Inspiration, Protection, and Scarecrow.
As you know, I'm doing a comprehensive update of all the images on the episode pages. But I am having trouble with the "All That Remains" photo as it has an annoying yellow tint that won't go away no matter what I do. Is it possible you could help me?
Hey Rocky. Sorry to bother you but there's something I need to ask you since you're our quote specialist. Would you mind just outlining the criteria for header quotes for the different types of characters - meaning main, recurring, unsub and notable characters. I'd like to have something to refer to when I'm constructing the new pages (unless of course, yourself or someone else hasn't already beaten me to it) so any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
1. For unsubs, the best quote there is. If it is something that encompasses their character, then great. e.g. Karl Arnold. Also, if it's something they say multiple times in the episode (e.g. Jonathan Rhodes), that works. For some unsubs, they only say 1-2 lines, so we have to pick the best one (John David Bates).
2. For main characters, same criteria.
3. For incidental and notable characters, IMO the criteria has to be more strict. The show's glimpse into their characters are limited, so even throwing a 'best' quote there is for them can result in just something thrown in there for the sake of it. e.g. no reason to have a quote for Cal, if all he says is that Morgan is there at the end of Red Light.
Item #3 - that's why I removed the quote for Travis Henson in Angels. i.e. when he said "hey man, gimme the stuff."
Non-unsub character, shows up on screen for a few seconds, really just a random few words from him wanting drugs. "Less is more" in this case. Now, if he was the unsub, then we would be adding that as a quote for him, because unsub pages have a lot more detail, more info on their characters, etc. Kinda like how John David Bates only says 1 thing in the entire episode ("Wait till you see this") but has a quote for him.
Then there's some cases where the unsub has a quote, but it would be awkward putting it as a header quote. e.g. Ian Coakley, as he says "no...no..."
Yeah I remember seeing that a while back. Personally I don't even know why we have a page for him because his role in the episode is minimal but obviously someone deemed him important enough to have one. So in summary, when it comes to unsub quotes, short and sweet is best if possible as long as it sums them up well enough. Obviously there are exceptions to this but am I right in saying that?
Yep. e.g. for some unsubs like Jonathan Rhodes, he really doesn't have a whole lot of words to his character. But he says "just enjoy the ride" either 2-3 times through the end of the episode in the car. Not to mention his hacking of the cars.
So it's not great like the header quotes for Karl Arnold or Frank Breitkopf, but is good enough to do the job.
Yeah I get you. Given time on screen, that's as good as we're gonna get. The Karl Arnold one isn't so bad, maybe it can be improved a little but it's not the worst. Frank's, on the other hand, I think that fits him perfectly given his M.O. and the profile that he'd have a knowledge of anatomy.
While we're on the subject though, can you have a quick look here and tell me what you think of the quote I chose for the unsubs from the last episode, please. This is just for them as a Criminal Organization; they're still going to get their own individual pages as well and I'm still in the process of breaking down the episode so I might find something better but I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks. I used the Ellen Russell and Darlene Beckett page as a template and went with what I felt best summed up their purpose like with the women in Season 8. Struggling with what to choose for the woman Irene. Ha yeah I find some easier to remember than others myself.
I have a quote for Desi in my page for her. I know you've already chosen one, that's fine, I'll use that quote when I publish the real thing. You don't have to explain why you picked that one but could you take a look at mine and let me know if you think we can use it anywhere else in the page? Whenever you get the chance, there's no rush. And thanks for that new image of her. It's perfect.
Really? I was just going out on a whim but I was ultimately going to use whatever you chose over what I had. It's a team effort. If you think a certain quote sums up a certain character, that's all I need to know.
And you mentioned not knowing how sandboxes work. I did some research before making mine. Do you want me to explain?
No no. Click the "Print Screen" key on your computer keyboard. It basically copies exactly what is displaying on your PC screen at that very time. e.g. a photo of your netflix window showing the episode.
Then paste into MS Paint or Photoshop, some photo software. Crop if needed.
Picasa is strictly for editing things like colors, tint, contrast, brightness, sharpness.
Hi Rocky, I just wanted to tell you that I had already uploaded an image for Lucky Strikes a week ago and it's the exact same image you just uploaded. The only difference is the filename. I can't see any other difference. Is there something wrong with the image I added?
Well, I can't argue with that. I know the feeling. I'll be sure to use your format if I manage to get an image for an episode up before you in the future. Make life easier for both of us. Thanks, Rock.
My pet peeve was seeing food thrown away that was not symmetrical in shape. e.g. a pizza that has 3 out of 8 slices eaten (therefore, not either all eaten or 50% eaten). I was dumpster diving a lot, ate myself sick many times. One time, my roommate threw away a pizza with 3 slices remaining; a week later, I took the pizza box outside of the garbage can, brushed away the roaches and ants, microwaved it, and ate it. I've gotten myself physically sick, such that eventually, it took care of the mental aspect of the pain.
Of course, I've had counseling and medication, still on those now. My doctor and I tried to go off them about a year or so ago, but it was unsuccessful; without them, I would be one of these unsubs in real life.
P.S. One thing that whole experience has given me is that I am very resistant to any kind of bacteria or infections. I have not washed my hands with soap for 3-4 years now, but have yet to get sick.
Jesus Christ. You didn't need to tell me that but I applaud you for it. Anyone who can be as open about an experience like that deserves a pat on the back in my book. That actually reminds me of my own struggles with OCD (though not nearly as severe) but mine was going in exactly the opposite direction. By that I mean I was washing my hands to the point where I was damaging my skin and leaving myself susceptible to getting sick. I've been on meds for about 3 years now but I feel I can manage without them for certain periods of time. I once went two weeks not taking them without falling back into my old OCD vices but because of my other conditions, I eventually have to take them full time again. That's progress. I've never told anyone that before.
Really goes to show it's a small world we live in. For all you know, the stranger sitting next to you at the bus stop could be more like you than you expect.
Sorry to barge in but it's a very interesting to me how incredible we can overcome or at least learn to live with our conditions and make the best of it. Condition wise, the only thing I suffer from is allergies (true story - I was once diagnosed with like 30 different allergies) and the occasional fangirl freakout when a new Taylor Swift song drops or a TV episode airs.
No you're fine. Yeah I think it's amazing how we manage as well as we do, even in the face of an endless list of problems. Sometimes I just try and look at it like this: everyone has stuff they carry with them day after day. Just because you have a condition or an allergy, doesn't mean that you're flawed in any way. It's just an extra bag you have to carry with you. Ok maybe that's being a bit dramatic but you get the point lol
Also, another pet peeve I have is when people say that "Superwoman JJ is unrealistic", e.g. referring to her performances in 200 and Sick Day, when she opened the flaming door with herself barely noticing the pain until after she got home.
IMO, that is very very realistic. Not only that, I've lived it. Around 2008 or so, I had lost my better half in a car accident. Shortly after that time, when I was still grieving, I had walked into a Waffle House restaurant bathroom and saw a 50 year old pulling a Carl Buford inside a stall. Specifically, I saw him bending over and penetrating a 5-year old from behind inside that stall. This was only a year after I had those severe OCD issues, and felt that I had moved 1 step forward, 3 steps back.
Around that time, I didn't feel any physical pain after everything that had happened to me mentally.
Nothing unrealistic about that at all! People will just look for anything to complain about.
God. I'm sorry to hear that, Rocky. You've really been through the wars. Forgive my tongue but when the devil came looking for that fucker, I hope he took his time. But I know the feeling about thinking you've taken 1 step forward but a couple more back. And how have you been holding up since, if you don't mind me asking?
Oh totally. I was yelling, running in circles, going into the Waffle House booths and yelling. I don't know if I had a psychotic episode or not...but next thing I remember, a big dude ala Duerson sat on his face, held him there. I was kicking and stomping in the guy's knees. One of the female servers talked me out of repeatedly hitting him, telling me to "save some of the Lord's vengeance for him."
Now back to the topic of this thread "Lucky Strikes".
Would you mind if I changed Floyd's header quote because I think what we hear him say in last night's episode sum him up perfectly and the old one kind of doesn't do him justice anymore. I'm still piecing together Marcus' page so it'll be tomorrow evening before I get to it but I'd like to ask your permission in advance.
Since this thread talks about images for episodes, just wanted to tell you I added images for the next two episodes after "The Bunker" but I used your preferred format for the filenames. Check it out when you can.
Unfortunately, the stream is full of commercials. I kinda had to multi-task while watching them live on TV - know exactly where I wanted the image from, that way I didn't have to rewatch the episodes 100%.
Hey I hope you don't mind me saying nice job on the image for the Kristy Simmons article. It's a pretty good pic seeing as the episode hasn't aired yet. Where'd you get it it from, I didn't see that shot of her in the promo and sneak peeks aren't usually released until the day before the episode? You don't have to answer that if you don't want to. Anyway, great work as always.
Hmm, interesting. I just didn't think you'd use images from Beyond Borders for the page. I can't recall what episode this is from, I'm usually pretty good at that, but I'm drawing a blank here. Anyway, that doesn't matter. Good work again.